dimanche, juillet 16, 2006

Ostroh - last photos

Picnic - memorial signs

Monastery in Meżyrycz

The same monastery

Again monastery in Meżyrycz

Together with Eva and our host family before departure

Ukrainian and Polish coordinators and volunteers

Our group and all host families

Ostroh - picnic - photos

Feast prepared by our host families

Exercises create a master ;)

Painting Marcins' arm :)

My other work

Academical choir

Next integrational game

Together with my huggy friend - Paweł :)

Ostroh - first photos

Welcome evening

Castle

Books museum

Visit in the Children Centre :)

Picnic with all host families

Picnic - integrational games ;)

Lviv - photos

I have so many nice pictures from this trip, that I'm affraid it'll be more than one post with photos ;) Let's see...

Lviv - Eva and me together with the painter - Nikifor

Lviv - I like this door very much :)

Lviv - adventure is waiting behind the corner...

Lviv - lovely kitten on the lovely balcony

Lviv - the Lyczakowski Cementary

Lviv - the Polish Eaglets' Cementary

Ukraine

After coming back from Strasbourg I was 2 days home and then - thanks to my friend Marcin - I had a first opportunity to travel to one of our East neighbours - Ukraine. It was kind of exchange - kids, youth and adults together ;) First we spent one day in Lviv. I've heard so many stories about this city before visiting it. But my general impression was - grey and not so well developed city under renovation. Of course, there are many beautiful places too :) For me the most impressive place was the Lyczakowski Cementary (incredible, old, amazing, huge) together with the Polish Eaglets’ Cementary (Polish youth figthers about the freedom during the WWII). After touring we have also some free time, which was very nice :)
At the evening we started our trip to the final destination - Ostroh. In this city is a HQ of the NGO which is partner of Marcins' NGO. They are doing such exchange third time - first Ukrainian families came to Poland, then Polish go to Ukraine :)
After coming to Ostroh we have very nice and warm welcoming, introducing to the host families and going with them home :) I was toghther with my second friend - Eva. Our host family was really nice - quite young marriage with 7 years old daughter. They treated us very warm, want to host us as good as it is possible in their situation. We spoke a lot - in strange mixture of Russian-Ukrainian-Polish ;)
Next day was quite intensive. A lot of tourism - Orthodox church, castle, museum of books, Ostroh Academy. We have also a meeting with the President of the City Council and the rector of OA. At the afternoon we visited a Children Centre - partner of the SMGP. And after that we have a lovely picnic near the river organized by our host families. It was a great time - all those funny games, singing songs, painting our bodies ;), eating those delicious things, relaxing, talking etc. And after that we goes for a disco. It was funny - due to the exam period almost nobody (besides us) was there. So our group was leading this evening :)
Last day we visited only the Catholic church in Ostroh and the wonderful monastery in Meżyrycz. Then we were in the pottery, where we bought many nice and cheap things. After that we have a free time to spend it with our host families. We have a nice home lunch, nice conversations and also we were shopping.
And at the late afternoon we have a farewell meeting, last 'family-photos' and going back home.

That was a very interesting trip. I like all those people, which we met. But I also must admit that there is quite big difference of the standards of living between Poland and Ukraine. I didn't expect so strong 'visible' difference. All people which where first time there said the same. But if I'll have next opportunity - I'll go there again. For the people, but also to see more and to learn more about this country. There is something in it...
I liked also our group :) I've met many great people :) I was also a 'guardian' of 3 teenagers - Eva, Wojtek and Kamil. All of them were very nice and funny. But Wojtek was/is amazing - momentaly he found few people with whom he want to be all the time - talk, hug, joke etc. I think he miss love and care in his family. Even now he's sending me messages each 2-3 days etc. That's so sweet :) But there were more nice people - Justyna, Marek, Kamila, Bartek, Agnieszka, Maciej and Paweł. Especial with Paweł I have a very good relation - he's my new huggy friend. Because of young age (19 y.o.) I may say even - mascot :) And of course I may not forget about my flatemate Eva and our great coordinator-organizer Marcin. My favourite 3 people of those days :)
What a long post - uffff...

Photos from TC Charter

Time for few photos from this Training Course in Strasbourg ;) As usual - I'm photomaniac ;)
Promoting Youth Campaign "All different - all equal"

Creative summary of the TC ;)

One of the energizers

Our lovely trainer - Andreas :)

Simulation game :)

Dinner in town...

Study visit in local radiostation - NGO

samedi, juillet 08, 2006

Strasbourg - again :)

So, at the morning on 14th June I start my travel to Strasbourg. Again more complicated because of different reasons. First by bus (National Express) to London. Due to the traffic we have more than 45 minutes of delay! This fact influence on me strongly - much stress that my travel details will changed, finally I didn't had time to go by the underground, so I used taxi. But I manage to catch my EuroStar train from London to Paris. It's is a nice travel, take only 2:50 h, I can't understand why people prefer planes on this way - if you'll think about the timing, ways to/from airports etc. In Paris I needed only to change stations from Nord to East, they are very close, few minutes only. Then I had a train to Strasbourg. Very nice travel. And in Strasbourg by tram to European Youth Centre. Ufff... long description ;)
In Strasbourg I was a participant of the TC Charter - Training course on Developing Youth Participation Projects. It was very interesting training course, with many nice inputs and remarks. I liked work of the team, especially Andreas and Nadine. Didi as an expert was also very interesting.
Our group was very diverse. Many motivated people, but few (mostly from local authorities) came there only for vacation - in my opinion. They didn't want to participate almost in any group work, even if they did - it was just saying few words and that's all. That was a bad example for others and also loosing money of the Council of Europe for such people. There were so many applications for each place, that's pity that they took place of other people. But that's always a risk, you never can't choose only active and motivated participants only by application form.
I've met there also 2 participants which I've met earlier - George from Giorgia and my friend Anna from Hungary :) I like Anna very much, she will come to visit me tomorrow and stay some time in my home :) Besides them I've met there few other nice people - Kaja, Antonella, James, Ranko, Sonya, Chloe etc. With 3 of them (Kaja, Anto and James) we created a very nice little sub-group :) I've spent a lovely time with them - talking, laughing, walking around city, drinking wine on the river bank, watching match - Italy versus Czech Republic, eating tarte flambee etc. Great time :) With Kaja and James I'm in contact via MSN, with Antonella still only via e-mail.
Generally, it was a good time - interesting training course, very nice non-formal time, wonderful - my beloved - city, nice weather :)
I stayed in Strasbourg for 11 days - since 14th until 25th June. Then I was going home... for 2 days ;) Maybe I'll put few photos from Strasbourg, but not now.

Cardiff

Ufff... long, long time of silence. Time to overtake it a bit ;) So... my a bit crazy June ;)
First on my list was Cardiff. I was there only for 1,5 day - for a Preparatory Meeting of the trainers team and organizers of European Module 4 (here is more about European Modules). Due to different reasons (mostly financial) I came to Cardiff by bus. It was long trip, but I survived it in better condition that I thought I'll. Our EM will be held in Novotel Hotel, what means very nice environment for youth event ;) During the first evening we have time to get know each other a bit more. I think I'll work with interesting people. I hope I'll manage my tasks as good as possible. I must admit that I'm a bit affraid - it's first such serious job for me in youth work. Cross your fingers for me :)
Next day was quite busy - we spent most of it on reading all those applications and choosing future participants. Besides that we're talking about the framework and background of all Modules and this particular one, about future communication, about my tasks etc. And at the evening we have dinner in very nice Italian restaurant, where we'll also take our participants during the training :) That was very nice :)
They also have meeting on the next day, but I was already on the way to Strasbourg.

dimanche, juin 11, 2006

Last week

This week was quite interesting :) Since Monday until Wednesday I was participated in seminar in Toruń (lovely Polish city). It was seminar about elections for local authorities, creating campaigns during it, convincing people etc. Very nice seminar with professional trainers. Half of it it was theory and half - practice :) We're simulating eg. press conferences, door-to-door campaing. It was very funny, but I learned a lot.
During this seminar I've meet again my friend Marcin. It was very nice meeting. But also met 3 wonderful ladies - my roommate Jola and two others - Aga and Ewa. Cool girls. I like Ewa veeery much and I hope we'll work in the future - we live quite near. So we spent a nice time in small group 3-4 people all the time :p
I cam back from Toruń at Wednesday afternoon. Whole Thursday I was helping in organizing Final Conference of I Scheme of LEADER+ for our Local Activity Group. Even it was a bit stressful it was cool, because I was doing interesting things together with my friends :) Conference was starting at 4 PM and took 5 hours. It was in a very nice place - agroturist farm with a very nice style. There was even a golf course, so I tried it first time in my life :) But before that I also had a short lecture about 'my part' of Strategy of Local Development, which we created during last months. I've met there aslo Arthur, my very good friend :) Other friends too of course ;) It was a nice time...
And last evenings were also great, because I spent them mostly on talking with my friends via MSN and Yahoo :) It was great, because some of them are not so often online :p

In 2 hours I'll start my travels. Today I'm going to Cardiff - by bus :( Terrible, so long time in a bus :( But I'll survive! We have a preparatory meeting for the team of European Module 4 there. I'll be there until Wednesday morning. On 14th June early morning I'll take a bus to London and then I'll take this famous EuroStar train London - Paris :) And I'll go from Paris to Strasbourg also by train. I love travelling by trains. And due to my lack of money I'll use them in my travels quite often. I'll stay in Strasbourg until the morning on 25th of June. Then I'll travel whole day through Germany and I'll be back home on 11 PM.
On 26th of June I'll have a short training in nearest big city - Bydgoszcz. So I'll be for sure online on 26th (evening) and 27th (who knows :p) - finally ;) But I'll try to use also a cybercentre in European Youth Centre in Strasbourg - as often as it'll be possible ;)
And if everything will be ok - on 28th June I'll join a trip to Ukraine :) Or maybe I will go to Płużnica one day earlier - connection is not so good between our villages. We'll see!
Hugs :)

Still words...

10th June 2006
"And again - only great moments during your trips and... good, but interesting people on your way. And..."

vendredi, juin 09, 2006

Words around me...

8th June 2006
"Agnieszko, human of touch...
You should be used by people as a medicin on their hurts...
That's all for today...
Goodnight Agnieszko-who-is-healing-by-her-touch"

dimanche, mai 28, 2006

No adventures!

Dear Rene, there are no adventures in this week :p And you already know everything from our meeting on Yahoo :p
"My" youngsters gaves me a CD with this movie. And it was visible that they forgett about technical requirements from organizers. And I couldn't contact with this camera-guy, because he is on his vacations and without mobile! So, little problem... But I asked one of my friends (Marcin :p) to help me. And he did this job in few hours, so I already sent this legend to organizers. I hope they get it and everything will be ok :)
Besides that I have to write 2 charters of our application form for LEADER+ Program. Until next Monday. What means very little time. But I don't have the 'right mood' for writing such things, so I'm trying to have as many other things to do as it's possible :p But I'll do it for sure.
In this week I had only 2 working meetings. One for the whole group - 4 hours workshop (talking with Arthur :p) and next day 6 hours of group work on the application form and splitting further tasks between us. And that's all.
Next week seems to be also "lazy" - just this LEADER+ application form, second application for our local church (to save it) and third one - I'll help with English application for EVS to my friend (Marcin :p). So 3 applications, at least 3 working meetings... And it seems to be all. Aha, maybe a meeting with 'my' youngsters - to plan next things for them and to plan holiday actions more in details.
As it's visible now - there are no adventures in my life... Nothing special happened in last days... Only I'm still confused about my personal live and lost in it... I hope it'll change soon! And I'll have a clear vision about it... In any way...
So, you must wait for next adventures - maybe until my trip to Torun, maybe until Cardiff or Strasbourg or maybe (still not sure!) Ukraine... But never know...

lundi, mai 22, 2006

Good times... bad times...

I think I lost my will to write two blogs - Polish and English. On Polish I'm more active. But it's easier - I have there "friends" reading my blog and asking "why you not publish new post??", so there is some kind of motivation ;)
Last week was quite lazy - just few little things to do, some meetings and that's all. But I had realy strange mood during it, so I want to forget about it as soon as possible.
But the previous one was just great. First I was 3 days in Warsaw. I was attending for a international youth meeting organized by the Polish Robert Schuman Foundation called “All different – all equal. Make the unity in diversity work!” - first event related with the Campaign First day I was a bit stressed, because of my workshop - I was a leader of the workshop "Europe without dividing lines?". And it was first work for this NGO, so it was important for me. Event (at least this part I was attending) was good, people were cool :) At the end they participated in so called "Schuman Parade". You may find photos here
From Warsaw I traveled to Maróz - small village in one of the most wonderful places in Poland, called Mazury. There was a 5th National Meeting of Rural NGOs. It was just great! Interesting lectures and workshops, cool people around, each evening - BBQs, fire, free beer and dancing with band :) And each evening we'll continuing party in our room or on the landing stage on the lake. I've met my one friend Marcin and he was with a group of friends, so I've met many new great ppl. In next year - if I will have an opportunity - I'll go next time with big pleasure :) And photos are here
This week we're continuing with our LEADER+ application form. The deadline is 31st May, so there is not so much time. I hope we'll manage with the applicaiton form, bank loan (first we must pay for our expences and then they will give us money back) and all other things. I'm sitting home and working on it and also on other applications. On Wednesday and Thursday we have a group meeting to finish some things.
"My" group of youngsters made a new movie interpretation of one local legend for a contest. Maybe it's not professional, but cool one :) I hope they will get at least some diploma! They are realy active, have a good ideas and they are very nice :) I hope they will have such a nice motivation for a long, long time...
Soon June will start... This crazy June... Let's see where and when I'll travel ;) I'm sure about 2 things - Cardiff and Strasbourg. And not sure about other two - one city in Poland and Ukraine. I hope I'll go in all those places. It'll be so great. Cross your fingers for that!

dimanche, mai 07, 2006

Friday night...

I've manage to do what I needed to do before Friday, so I had a free mind to enjoy our short trip.
Our Local Activity Group goes for a study visit (related with group integration) in other Local Activity Group, about 1,5 h from my home. This group is much 'older' and have a great experience.
First they took us to show us some of the effects of their work, then we had some presentations. After that they took us to our mini-hostels (we have accomodation in 3 different mini-hostels! and we're only 38!). Then we have a nice dinner in the restaurant on the lake-bank. Then some short lectures. And party :) During this party found out that one guy has his 39 birthsday, so it start to be even more funny. We're singing, dancing, drinking, joking, talking, laughing... Some of us were also on a walk around the beach :D Nice evening.
But organizers finished this party very early (around 00:30). So we're going to our mini-hostels. But one girl from my mini-hostel remind that she has some alcohol in her room :) So, we decided to continue this nice night in her room, we gained even 2 more guys from the other hostel. It was a realy interesting party, first very crowded, but at the end just 5 ppl. I slept only 30 minutes! And it was funny at the morning to saw those surprised faces of other ppl when they saw those additional guest during the breakfast :D
The rest of Saturday it was mostly work on our strategy and vision. We must prepare an application form for money for 2007-2013, but at this moment must detailed must be 2007. Much to do, but it is nice work.
During the way back home everybody were tired, but very happy and satisfy. It was even sad to say hello. And definately we're much more integrated now :D

mardi, mai 02, 2006

News

Losted will for writing this blog? Don't know.

Different things happened during this 'silent' period. The most important for me is a fact that I was accepted as a junior trainer / documentalist in one of the European Modules organized by the Partnership Programme on Youth Training of the Council of Europe and the European Commission. I'm very happy, it's first big step in my career as a trainer.
Until now I did only training for youth NGOs.
Besides this I'll be a translator during the International Fair in Spain (products made by women) at the beginning of June.
Also in June I'll go to Strasbourg for a training course about youth participation - this time unfortunately as a participant. But from the other way it's also good sometimes to be a participant ;)
I'll also apply for being a trainer in Portugal in July, so also a preparatory meeting in June. And I applied for being a trainer also in Turkey in June - it's a bit late, but they still need a trainer. Now I'm waiting for their decission. So, if everything will be ok I'll have a busy June! Starting from 2nd June, finishing at 25th June. Portugal - Spain - United Kingdom - France - Turkey - it would be a nice June :) I hope it'll be in this way!
And I just received an info about very good grant possibility for our NGO, but the deadline is 8th May! And I have alredy one publication to create, 2 applications for being trainer to fill and a little training during next weekend, so there is not much place for creating such big application. I'll decide tomorrow morning.
At the end - I miss my friends from other countries, want to see them as soon as possible!

samedi, avril 15, 2006

For my friends...

I will not be realy unconventional now ;)

What can I wish you this Easter? You are already so rich in all the things that really count… You have a loving heart, a joyous spirit and a positive outlook on life… So, the only wish I can possibly make for you today is that some small measure of the joy you bring to others will return to you now to brighten your Easter and Spring.

Happy Easter!

mercredi, avril 05, 2006

What a time...

Hm... those breaks between my posts here are not good :( Even if I get most of my energy back again (hurra!) I still don't have will to write more often.
Those days since my last post were incredible! I wrote alone 2 applications for small grants - for the English program "Be the Change" and the Polish program "Make a Connection". Results should be known in one month. Besides that I helped my friend Anna (Hungary) to write an application for a training course about a gender equality in decision-making - it was first time to her :) And also I worked on one training course and one study session with one trainer-fellow Serhan (Turkey). And also create an application for a travel grant for an exchange, which is planned by my friends Astrid (Norway) and Ethemcan (Turkey). So, together 6 projects!
But - as I just knew some time ago - 2 of them probably will not work :( Study session received a 2nd priority on AEGEE-applications list, what means probably no money :/ And the last application (exchange) was not presented in our NA - our President didn't manage to do this on time :( This is even worst, than SS - it's broking of the whole frame of exchange :( I still don't know how I should inform my friends about it :( Do you know any other possibility to get funds for 10 people to travel from Poland to Norway? Board and lodging is not so important ;) Or at least for me? ;) I miss them so much...

I survived all those paperwork thanks to 2 CDs. Both are Polish (ok, one
is partly English also) - "In the room" of Krzysztof Kiljański (what a sexyyy voice ;)) and "Tu Es Petrus" of Piotr Rubik. Two completly different CDs. First is mostly about feelings between women and man and this guy has realy suuuch voice, mniam... ;) And second hmm... I may say it's kind of religious, but for me it's more about universe and universal things like good and bad, love and hate, peace and war, faith and despair... It's great Oratorio with great choirs and orchestra. In those cases it's pity that you can't understand text (even if you would buy any of them). Music is great, but together with lyrics both are incredible. You must learn Polish ;)

During last weekend I was in Gdynia - it's one of the cities in so called "TriCity" (http://guide.trojmiasto.pl/) It's unique place in Poland - 3 cities in very strong synergy. It's north of Poland, on the Baltic Sea. Here are very nice photos of Gdynia - http://www.gdynia.pl/?co=galeria&lang=en I was there for a conference organized by our Ministry of National Defence - about possibilities for cooperation between them and NGOs. I must say that, even if on the beginning I was a bit sceptic (average age: 55 ;)), it was realy frutiful meeting (at least for me) . I've learned a lot about them and different possibilities. Besides that I visited a seaside (I know it's April in Poland, but so what? ;)) - I didn't visit it since April 2005. And what is most important I've met my brother and niece. He visited us some months ago, but I didn't meet Julia since 2 years! It was realy great - she is realy cool ;) Funny little lady :)

And now I'm relaxind a bit and preparing my plan of activity for next weeks - there are other grant possibilities in April. And in May there are 3 events which I want to visit. But from where I'll get funds for that?? I had a proposition of a job in Warsaw, but for funny money :/ It could be enough if I would live there with my guy/husband who should also work there. In this case this amount could be ok. But not in my case. What means that I still need to find some 'normal' montly earnings. Ehh... I need to be an international/national youth trainer more often and write more applications (btw - I'm starting to be a kind of expert in writing applications ;))) so maybe I'll earn some additional money. Any propositions for me? ;)

PS. Bent u nu tevredenstelt, Rene? Hope it's a right gramma ;)

dimanche, mars 26, 2006

My week

Long breake, I know. But there is not much to write. The beginning of this spring is very heavy for me, both - physically and mentally. I'm tired all the time, sleepy, without energy, in sad mood and so on. I have enough of it already and hope it'll finish soon.
During last days I had few things to do. I worked on the long-term strategy of development of our region. It's needed for our Partnership of NGOs, local authorities and business sector to apply for funds from LEADER+ (EU-program for rural areas).
Besides that I had a meeting with pupils from our local grammar school. I want to help them to develop some ideas and be more active in our local community. We did a need assessment and first two places were: to have a internet cafe and to meet other young people from different regions of Poland and also different countries. About internet cafe we're thinking in our association to apply for an info-point in our village. And about meetings with others - they have time until tomorrow to think what exactly they would like to do and tomorrow afternoon we'll meet and talk about it. If there will be a nice idea(s) we'll try to apply for some money for that. Cross you fingers for that! :)
I was also in Warsaw for two days. First day I had a job interview. Very interesting job, but I don't have much hope I'll be chosen. We'll see, decission will be taken until Wednesday.
Second day we have a meeting of the board of the PYC and during the afternoon the meeting with the representatives of our member NGOs. It was interesting meeting, about new statute, declaration of membership and so on. We're making many changes to have everything fine before applying for the European Youth Forum (yes, Bettina, we took our decission finally :))) So much work to do - those old documents are not very good :/ Don't know who created them.
On Friday I was in little village for a Conference - closing a first part of the Program LEADER+ for this local community. It was interesting and I've meet Marcin - a friend who I know from CMS in Olsztynek (February 2006). That was very nice :)
With a second friend from this CMS - Anna and one Turkish trainer we're working on a Training Course about gender equality in decission-making process, in Hungary in October 2006. It looks cool :) We'll apply for funds for 1st April. And maybe also a second TC in Turkey - about Human Rights Education, what is very interesting for me :) If both will be accepted I'll be very happy!
And somewhere in my soul is still a need for a next travel. I wish to go to Bruxelles, Strasbourg, Paris, Istanbul... Travelling again, please! And there are two problems: lack of money (what is related with a job) and no interesting opportunities for few nearest months :( Somebody have an idea how to solve it?

dimanche, mars 12, 2006

Memories

Because I had still some problems in my life (mostly in professional part of it) I'll use my old habbit - remind myself a great moments of my life. For better mood :) And I'll use this possibility also for explaining my adventure with French language.
I've started to learn French in last year. Due to lack of money I just used a multimedia course for that. After some time I was accepted as a participant of French language course And here my photostory begin ;)

In this place I was living for one month :)

I was a participant of the French language course organized by the Council of Europe.

We have a much time to know city very well ;) And, of course, for some of us it wasn't first time in Strasbourg.

And even if we have really hard work to do...

... we still found some time for parties :p

So, we have a great time during evenings...

... but also during the days :)

And after this month I for sure...


...even more than before :)

And after that I may say that my French is better. But still - I'm beginner :)

mardi, mars 07, 2006

Better

It's better :) Not very good, but for sure better. Thank you guys for your care!

I'm still filling some applications! It seems it's never-ending story... Applications for being a trainer or participate in some events, job applications, grants applications ufff...
Yesterday I was in Warsaw - I had a meeting concerning possible cooperation with a network of women' NGOs from the CEE. It was quite interesting. We'll see how it'll be in the future :p After this meeting I've met our (PYC) president to talk a bit about board stuff. There are many things which we must solve nowadays, but the most important is cooperation with our Ministry of Education (after change of the Minister) and completing all documents needed for application for being an observer member in European Youth Forum. We want to complete this and send before April. Hope we'll manage. Next week we'll have a board meeting, also to manage this application.

I've noticed that since some time I'm listing only four CDs:
1. Mission Impossible 1 - soundtrack,
2. Pulp Fiction - soundtrack,
3. Musical Hair - soundtrack,
4. Carla Bruni - Quelqu'un m'a dit.
My favourites are Carla and Hair. At least now ;) I don't have "special" kind of music or artist, which I like the most - it's chaning all the time. I love so many different kinds and artists. In my opinion if you're listen only one - you put some limits for yourself and you don't know many great things. So, in my case it refer also to movies, books, food...
Now I'm looking for a guy singing great songs in French. I need some change ;) Of course, I know some great artists like Aznavour, Montand or Dassin. And I love also this kind of French music. But now I'm looking for something more in "Carla" style.

Finally - part of one song of Carla - Raphaël. But you should hear it to "feel" it...

Pas de délice, pas d'étincelle, pas de malice sans Raphaël,

Les jours sans lui deviennent ennui, et mes nuits s'ennuient de plus belle.

Pas d'inquiétude, pas de prélude, pas de promesse à l'éternel,

Juste l'amour dans notre lit, juste nos vies en arc-en-ciel, Raphaël...

A l'air d'un sage, et ses paroles sont de velours,

De sa voix grave et de son regard sans détours,

Quand il raconte, quand il invente, je peux l'écouter

Nuit et jour... Hmm